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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594420">(May 14 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@T-compiler/WG-meta</span> <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594446">(May 14 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594484">(May 14 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, I was talking to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> about the need for a "windows group"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594521">(May 14 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was also discussing with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> re: the Tier RFC, and how I want the requirement for a new Tier to be that it offers support</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594617">(May 14 2020 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>We didn't do the area meeting proposal this cycle but maybe we can move forward a bit anyway, at least adding a windows group?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594622">(May 14 2020 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was going to get around to pinging about windows soon but keep not finding time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594748">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Last time we created this tracking issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594749">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/283">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/283</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594766">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the main question was what "label" to use</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594795">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>well that and we were talking about rebranding "ICE-breakers" to "ping groups" or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594804">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>since the current name is really being stretched too far :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594825">(May 14 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594887">(May 14 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>it seems like O-windows is the label to use</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594919">(May 14 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that exists, right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594967">(May 14 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems pretty easy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197594992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197594992">(May 14 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe I'll just spend these minutes doing some of those steps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595056">(May 14 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we'll just cal this a "platform team" or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595065">(May 14 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., t-compiler/platform-windows</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595073">(May 14 2020 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>or target I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595144" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595144">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>though I suppose that's a bit of a bulky name to type :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595162">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep, target seems good :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595167">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least, the GH team should have something shorter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595193">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>well @rust-lang/target-windows is probably good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595207">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>or @rust-lang/windows</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595227">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595230">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess just windows is beter :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595236">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595243">(May 14 2020 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595306" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595306">(May 14 2020 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>uh we do need to have a few members eventually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595348">(May 14 2020 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>mm the cleanup crew has a lot of folks in it, that's great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595356">(May 14 2020 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should remember to periodically re-advertise these</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595408">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595427">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you have some windows members in mind, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595432">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, one question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595444">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>is windows a "marker team"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595453">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>or is it more of an "official working group"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595474">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think maybe it's actually the latter?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595489">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., we were talking about making "teams" for the areas and stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595497">(May 14 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>that would be listed on  the website</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595532">(May 14 2020 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>and where being added is more a recognition for work done ..?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595546">(May 14 2020 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>is there an area? :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595548">(May 14 2020 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>as opposed to the "ICE-breakers", where it's really just a way to notify folks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595594" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595594">(May 14 2020 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this should not be an ICE Breaker group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595690">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595697">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't realize it until just now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595707">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that's exactly what cleanup is for</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595715">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <em>ideally</em> you'd actually see these groups</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595721" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595721">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>getting more active</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595736">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., you could imagine a "windows group" taking steps to improve windows bugs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595741">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>and the overall experience</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595744">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>if there's a Windows issue cleanup I guess could also take care of making the report look better and figure out some first things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595748">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>and not just responding to bugs reports</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595758" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595758">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595759">(May 14 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595803" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595803">(May 14 2020 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>fascinating</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595819">(May 14 2020 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe rustup will get faster someday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595865">(May 14 2020 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>we will need at least a nominal lead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595869" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595869">(May 14 2020 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can put myself to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595923">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I won't do anything :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595932">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="125250">@Wesley Wiser</span> is willing/interested</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595947">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we need two separate group's - one for organizing but also another for pinging</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595957">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595972">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>which should we start with and how do we explain this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595991">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>if <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="125250">Wesley Wiser</span> is not interested add me, I don't even have windows but once there's somebody there I can just remove me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197595994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197595994">(May 14 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like we should start with "pinging", but can you clarify the distinction a it better?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596065">(May 14 2020 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah - so - I think most people who we could add don't have bandwidth to do design work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596095">(May 14 2020 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>But drive by commenting on issues that have been nominated is more viable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596151" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596151">(May 14 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I'm a good choice for lead. I have Windows boxes and I have used Windows for a long time but I've never done C\C++ on Windows. I'm happy to try my hand at fixing Windows issues though <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596215" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596215">(May 14 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually having "two groups" is sort of reasonable in another way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596236">(May 14 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>though really I think what would be best</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596248">(May 14 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>is to have one group with another section</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596251">(May 14 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., something like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596283">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>We also want to split decision makers from "people with knowledge" I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596287">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code><span class="k">[people]</span>
<span class="n">leads</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
<span class="n">members</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
<span class="n">ping</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
</code></pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596293">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197596283">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>We also want to split decision makers from "people with knowledge" I think</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596310">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is kind of what I was getting at</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596324">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe s/ping/notify/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596346">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the idea would be "anybody can add themselves to the ping/notify group"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596359">(May 14 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>still, we can also just have two distinct files, seems fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596419">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596430" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596430">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596440">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>notify seems better than ping :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596442">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will call it <code>target-windows-notify</code> I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596505">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197596287">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code><span class="k">[people]</span>
<span class="n">leads</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
<span class="n">members</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
<span class="n">ping</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="k">[ ... ]</span>
</code></pre></div>


</blockquote>
<p>where do you plan to add this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596524">(May 14 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, what I meant was</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596541">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we had a toml file in the rust-lang/team repository</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596551">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this woud lbe a generally useful feature</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596561">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., for the async-await group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596573">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596575" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596575">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I might like to be able to notify "everybody who cares about async await"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596589">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>while <em>also</em> having "members of the group who've put in time and effort"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596591">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd say that we should have that for all the areas :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596609" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596609">(May 14 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, same for any area</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596690">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> you added the "metagroups" to team earlier ..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596732" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596732">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596744">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>how would members be different from notify?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596762" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596762">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>the idea would be that members are, well, members.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596770">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant, I understand that semantically</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596772">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>they are added to github teams, mailing lists</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596808">(May 14 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>the notify is <em>just</em> for <code>rustbot ping windows</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596847" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596847">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(is that the command? that's an argument for "ping")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596855">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>well but usually people do stuff like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596898">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>cc @rust-lang/wg-mir-opt</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596912">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, we have to train them not to do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596924">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is wrong</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596944">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>or at least, it is semantically distinct</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197596964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197596964">(May 14 2020 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm we could have 2 groups</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597030">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is a reason we didn't use github teams</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597035">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that reason still applies</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597042">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>a group that receives pings and a group that's more like admin</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597049">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't want to make random people members of the org</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597060">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597065">(May 14 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597149">(May 14 2020 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed but I was clearly seeing the semantical implicancies not the practical ones, now both are clear :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597209">(May 14 2020 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree people may do this wrong..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597284">(May 14 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think it'll be ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597287">(May 14 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>we'll learn</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597382">(May 14 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but what should we do today :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597739">(May 14 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597763">(May 14 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are a lot of things like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597796">(May 14 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>we're starting to use <code>libs-impl</code> but not everyone is aware of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597885">(May 14 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>in the morning re-labelled some issues and have added a text explaining that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597968">(May 14 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> do we have something else to discuss?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597973">(May 14 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>in other words, should I go ahead and create a "meta team" for windows (target-windows-notify)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197597995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197597995">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then maybe we make a target-windows team later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598012">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then later we are able to merge them because we add a new feature?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598037">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598049">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598078">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>also</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598082">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197598012">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>and then later we are able to merge them because we add a new feature?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>what did you mean here?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598102">(May 14 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we added the <code>ping = [...]</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598170">(May 14 2020 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>then we could merge <code>target-windows-notify</code> "meta-team" into <code>target-windows</code> as the <code>ping = [...]</code> members</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598193">(May 14 2020 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, I am being quite inconsistent with <code>notify</code> aren't I</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598211">(May 14 2020 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>(one side note, I think we should probably list these groups on our web page)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598329">(May 14 2020 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I may have been in a bit of a bikesheed but one thing about notify and ping, is that ping is something that happens in a recurrent way :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598574">(May 14 2020 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is not the way I'd notify people</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197598643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197598643">(May 14 2020 at 18:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197598211">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(one side note, I think we should probably list these groups on our web page)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span>, so they shouldn't be marker groups</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197599763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197599763">(May 14 2020 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I think notify is fine, I just think it should match "@rustbot notify foo" for example</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197599784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197599784">(May 14 2020 at 18:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure what you mean about "shouldn't be marker groups"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197599859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197599859">(May 14 2020 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess by now I think the idea of marker groups is probably bad and we should just have teams that can have "notify" participants</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197599888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197599888">(May 14 2020 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>but given our current setup, marker groups is correct :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197599906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197599906">(May 14 2020 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure what a "member" of the cleanup crew is, but .. so what...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197600062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197600062">(May 14 2020 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197599784">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I'm not sure what you mean about "shouldn't be marker groups"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>marker groups are not included on the website</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197600092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197600092">(May 14 2020 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know, I'm saying that maybe they should be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197600102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197600102">(May 14 2020 at 18:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>it doesn't matter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197600165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197600165">(May 14 2020 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it seems like it'd be nice to include the cleanup crew under "t-compiler"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197601837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197601837">(May 14 2020 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I was thinking -- maybe we should make an MCP to describe our plan?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197601861" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197601861">(May 14 2020 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like we've spun up enoguh variations that I'm a bit confused</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197601874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197601874">(May 14 2020 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also I want something to point people at</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197601937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197601937">(May 14 2020 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was just talking to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> a bit about it over privmsg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197601958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197601958">(May 14 2020 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>(hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span>) :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197602306" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197602306">(May 14 2020 at 18:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hello <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197603981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197603981">(May 14 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>started dropping notes here</p>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/TriAwtjpQ5iCs37QvUdYVg">https://hackmd.io/TriAwtjpQ5iCs37QvUdYVg</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197607102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197607102">(May 14 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry had another call so didn't attend :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197611836" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197611836">(May 14 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14/near/197603981">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>started dropping notes here</p>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/TriAwtjpQ5iCs37QvUdYVg">https://hackmd.io/TriAwtjpQ5iCs37QvUdYVg</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>just got back again, reading the notes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612640" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612640">(May 14 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> from me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612671" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612671">(May 14 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure if something was removed by mistake or you didn't complete it but there's a phrase at the end that says ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612696">(May 14 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>It would</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612704">(May 14 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>and nothing else :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612818">(May 14 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612859">(May 14 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>my main doubt is how would this play with the areas idea?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612884">(May 14 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>would we need to change something when we introduce areas?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197612947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197612947">(May 14 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>would it be a windows area? if so, would we need to rename some stuff or do you think that everything would fit nicely?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197621817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197621817">(May 14 2020 at 21:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just imagine we have "areas of the compiler" and "targets" but the two are variations of the same thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197621862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197621862">(May 14 2020 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., for each target, we have an "area"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197621878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197621878">(May 14 2020 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we also have areas like "borrow checker"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623143">(May 14 2020 at 21:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623252">(May 14 2020 at 21:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, I rewrote the doc to be clearer, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@Ryan Levick</span> take a look maybe?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623497">(May 14 2020 at 21:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this seems pretty good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623504">(May 14 2020 at 21:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if it's worth just modifying the team repository</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623507">(May 14 2020 at 21:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>doesn't seem .. that hard? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623523">(May 14 2020 at 21:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I remember <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> you were able to do it fairly quickly last time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623553" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623553">(May 14 2020 at 21:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah seems pretty good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623586">(May 14 2020 at 21:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>Heading to bed now but this looks good. I can share this tomorrow with folks at Microsoft to see who wants to get involved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623605">(May 14 2020 at 21:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess modifying the team repo should be easy :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623624">(May 14 2020 at 21:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>also cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> on the team repo side of things :) -- you may want to check <a href="https://hackmd.io/TriAwtjpQ5iCs37QvUdYVg">this doc</a> to see what horrible things we are planning to do to the team repo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197623738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197623738">(May 14 2020 at 21:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess once we have settled I can try to make this happen on the team repo, unless someone else want to do it <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197628395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197628395">(May 14 2020 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197628425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197628425">(May 14 2020 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>just a thing, <code>target-windows</code> might be more consistent with <code>wg-</code>, <code>icebreakers-</code>...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202020.04.14/near/197666921" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202020.2E04.2E14.html#197666921">(May 15 2020 at 09:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>One thing regarding the Windows target group. I believe there is an informal Windows working group. It would be good to acknowledge and explain how this relates to that. <a href="https://github.com/rust-windows/wg">https://github.com/rust-windows/wg</a></p>



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<p>I was not aware of that group!</p>



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<p>I suspect they have a broader focus, but that is interesting</p>



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<p>Maybe open an issue on the repo :)</p>



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